Josh Funder

Household Capital Three Pillars Forum Demands Holistic Retirement Funding Solutions September 16, 2021 The 2021 Household Capital Three Pillars Forum was held on September 16 and attended by hundreds of industry leaders and stakeholders.

Since commencing in 2019, the Household Capital Three Pillars Forum, has grown to welcome a larger number of panelists, this year including three expert panels.

Sponsored by Household Capital, the Three Pillars Forum is determinedly independent and seeks to unite all three pillars of retirement funding: superfunds, the Aged Pension and home equity. This year the Three Pillars Forum was hosted by Australian journalist and broadcaster Ali Moore.

Panel One: Australian retirees are the wealthiest in the world; but are they loving life?

Opening with a plenary address from Senator Anne Ruston, this consumer-focused panel was joined by Ben Hillier, Troy Sloan, Jeremy Duffield, Noel Whittacker and Kyra-Bae Snell and looked at the lack of retiree confidence, despite their wealth.

In her remarks, Senator Ruston, Minister for Families and Social Services, highlighted Australian paper millionaires, saying, “We want our senior Australians to enjoy the best quality of life during their retirement and one of the key factors in achieving this is financial independence. The three pillars you are discussing today, the Aged Pension, superannuation and voluntary savings are so important to this and form the basis of Australia’s retirement income system.

“To improve the welfare of our older Australians, these three pillars must work together and be fit for purpose. For many senior Australians the Aged Pension is a key source of retirement income, but with housing prices increasing significantly in recent years, we are seeing many of our senior Australians paper millionaires with limited ability to access the benefits of their appreciating assets.”

Ben Hillier, General Manager Retirement Solutions at AMP, spoke to the lack of information available to retirees saying, “I like to use the analogy that that’s like putting someone into a lifeboat, when they’re expecting to go on a retirement cruise. They’re perhaps thinking that it’s going to be the cruise of a lifetime. We whack them in a lifeboat, load them up with lots of provisions and push them off and say, “There you go, enjoy your retirement.”

“They say, “Well, how long do I need to make these provisions last?”. “Well, you figure it out!”. “How much do I consume?” Well, it’s entirely up to them. We’re putting all the risks onto the retirees. Which is just far too much to expect for people who aren’t finance professionals.”

Jeremy Duffied, Executive Chairman of SuperEd and Retirement Essentials, described his perfect solution, saying, “In a utopia I’d go for simplicity because we must have one of the most complex systems in the world from the superannuation system to the Aged Pension system, to our advice regulation. I’d be looking for every opportunity I could to simplify things but I don’t expect that utopia to develop. I would do things like pursue the retirement income covenant and try and make retirement income forecasts readily, widely available, to help people understand what that means, because it helps them address the great questions of how much can I spend and how long will it last.

“Encouraging retirement income forecasts is something that super funds and the government can do. I would push super funds to help people get into account based pensions at the right age and not to stay an accumulation too long. And I would encourage super funds to keep their members into retirement, even if they have relatively small balances.”

Panel Two: Housing and funding retirement; the economic boost of a trillion dollars of Australian retiree property

Focussed on the economy, this panel opened with an update from Professor Hazel Batemen, before the international panelists Andrew Kail, Professor Thomas Davidoff, Emma Dawson, Tim Lawless, James Hickey and Bob Officer explored the potential economic boost from releasing the $1 trillion dollar Australian retiree property portfolio.

Tim Lawless, Head of Research at CoreLogic Asia Pacific, spoke to the rapidly rising value of the Australian property market, saying, “It was only back in early April that we estimated the overall asset value of housing in Australia had broken the $8 trillion mark. And by the end of August, it had risen to $8.9 trillion. And almost without a doubt, by the end of September, we’ll have an asset class that’s worth about $9 trillion.”

Emma Dawson, Executive Director of Per Capita, said, “For a lot of Australians, in fact, the vast majority of working Australians, the family home is where their wealth is stored. And as we age, the capital gain that people have made on that property over the last 20 to 30 years is of no use to them if it’s not improving their standard of living. And it’s about enjoying those years of your retirement, where you’re still healthy and well enough to enjoy life spending a little bit more money then, so that you are reaping the benefits of having made that capital gain.”

James Hickey, Partner at Deloitte, said, “It’s not just the Aged Pension and superannuation. It’s also now including other forms of wealth, including housing wealth in considerations for people, when they look at their retirement. I think that we should give the incentive to financial planners to actually see it as an obligation upon themselves to understand the role of the family home, and the repository of wealth that that could present. Under the Retirement Income Covenant, it may well require superannuation trustees to have an understanding of the value of the home, of the member and what role that could also play in a retirement income strategy. So, there is a ground swell of momentum happening, and the encouraging thing is that equity release is being considered in a lot of those discussions.”

Panel Three: Longevity, a blessing or a curse?

Uniting the industry to fund an ageing population. The final panel united experts from every element of aged care funding including superannuation, the Aged Pension, home equity including the Pension Loan Scheme, and the latest in technology delivery. Dr Deborah Ralston both gave the introductory address and joined the panel along with Steven Reilly, John Maroney, George Haramis, Dr Joshua Funder.

Dr Deborah Ralston, Co-Author of the Retirement Income Review, said, “One of the things that we really want people to do is to enter retirement feeling confident and happy, about the fact that they are able to live a good quality of life, and that they can use their resources. Too often, people are afraid to spend their savings because they’re concerned that they’ll run out of money or there’ll be huge costs involved. And if we structure our products right, we can give people confidence to know that they’re not going to run out of money and that they’ll be able to afford the comfortable retirement that they saved for.”

Dr Joshua Funder, CEO of Household Capital, spoke to the positives saying, “We’ve got a real opportunity because we’ve got good healthcare and longevity, challenge and a benefit. We’ve got a good pension that’s sustainable, means tested, higher for those who get it than off shore when everybody gets a flat pension. Got good housing, residential property, and we’ve got a good superannuation system, but it’s not there yet for baby boomers. We’ve got great home equity that we can add and it’s already been declared in a world-leading way as the third pillar. So, funnily enough, Australia’s got the chance to meet the challenge of an ageing population with the existing componentry and the wealth that we’ve already saved.”

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Ali Moore and Joshua Funder

The 2021 Household Capital Three Pillars Forum will be hosted by Ali Moore and broadcast on September 16 from 9.30am to 1.30pm. Entry to the online event is free of charge and professionals from the financial services and retirement industries are invited to attend.

This year the forum has grown to encompass three separate panel events, covering consumers, the economy and the three pillars of the retirement industry. Senator Anne Ruston will deliver the plenary address while Dr Deborah Ralston, co author of the Retirement Income Review and Professor Hazel Batemen, one of Australia’s leading academic authorities on population ageing and the economy will both deliver key notes. Panelists come together with Ali Moore in the Covid-safe Melbourne studios, from around Australia, and from Europe and North America.

In its third year, Household Capital’s Three Pillars Forum has become a thought leader event, driving discussion and innovation throughout the retirement community sector. The Three Pillars Forum is unique in its focus on bringing together the power and resources of the super, aged pension and retirement home equity sectors, looking for cohesive, collaborative solutions which will create better outcomes for Australian retirees.

Dr Joshua Funder says, “We are delighted to welcome such a broad cross section of experts to our event. From industry leaders to the people whose lives they impact every day, we were committed both to providing the latest information and a forum in which views and experiences can be shared and learning can accelerate.

“We hope that by bringing together an eclectic selection of thought pioneers we have generated new conversations and facilitated networking to work towards our goal of a truly collaborative solution for retirement income funding.”

Panel one: Australian retirees are the wealthiest in the world; but are they loving life?

This panel will explore whether Australian retirees experience confidence and lifestyles that match being the wealthiest in the world. Topics covered included the challenges of delivering coherent financial advice and access to all three pillars of retirement funding, how to provide retirees confidence in their own wealth and lifestyles; the difficulty of accessing information and then implementing appropriate in-home care or aged care.

Panelists: Noel Whittacker, Kyra-Bae Snell, Ben Hillier, Troy Sloan, Jeremy Duffield.

Panel two: Housing and funding retirement; the economic boost of a trillion dollars of Australian retiree property

This session will explore the potential economic boost from releasing the $1 trillion dollar Australian retiree property portfolio.

The expert panel will look at the immediate benefits of releasing the funds into the market, economic multiplier effects of equity release and economic stimulus from both additional funding and consumer confidence. The panel will grapple with the potential positive impacts of intergenerational wealth transfer and the benefits of spending by younger people and the boost to the housing and renovations market as the bank of mum and dad fund their kids and as retirees spend on creating their ideal forever home. Andrew Kail and Professor Thomas Davidoff add valuable international insights.

Panelists: Andrew Kail, Professor Thomas Davidoff, Emma Dawson, Tim Lawless, James Hickey, Bob Officer.

Panel three: Longevity, a blessing or a curse? Uniting the industry to fund an ageing population.

The final panel unites experts from every element of aged care funding including superannuation, the aged pension, home equity including the Pension Loan Scheme, and the latest in technology delivery.

The panel will consider the challenges facing an ageing population and how the industry can unite to provide customer first solutions that give our retirees the very best outcomes. How do we meet the challenges of dealing with elderly and vulnerable customers while providing comprehensive, independent and user friendly guidance?

The panel will discuss key elements from the Retirement Income Covenant Outlook.

Panelists: Dr Deborah Ralston, Steven Reilly, John Maroney, George Haramis, Dr Joshua Funder.

About the Household Capital Three Pillars Forum

Household Capital’s Three Pillars Forum is now in its third year and has grown to be a major Australian retirement income industry event, uniting diverse thought leaders and creating innovation and collaboration.

The 2021 Household Capital Three Pillars Forum will be broadcast on Thursday, September 16 from 9.30am. Registration is free of charge.

Visit the Three Pillars website to learn more.

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Josh Funder

Household Capital’s 2020 Third Pillar Forum launched yesterday as an online experience. The online forum includes a live panel discussion and interviews with 27 experts from around the world.

The Forum’s live national panel debate was hosted by Ali Moore in the Melbourne studio with Andrew Boal, CEO of Rice Warner and Joshua Funder, CEO of Household Capital. Senator the Hon Jane Hume, Assistant Minister for Superannuation, Financial Services and Financial Technology, along with Aware Super CEO Deanne Stewart and Milliman’s Amara Haqqani joined from the Aware Super Sydney office. Peter Harris, former Chairman of the Productivity Commission and author Jean Kitson joined respectively from Queensland and New South Wales.

The robust conversation covered the three pillars of retirement funding: the government pension, superannuation and voluntary savings including home equity. The panel also addressed wider topical concerns around aged care, the significant disparity between the sexes in retirement wealth, the need for education and engagement, as well as focussing into specific action points such as proposed increases to the standard employer contribution of 9.5 percent, or including the home in the asset test.

Senator Hume said, “The concept of the third pillar is actually really important, the importance of that third pillar in providing for retirement has been really overlooked I think in the policy conversation about retirement so far. And a third pillar, or voluntary savings, is incredibly important to the retirement security of Australians. For many, as we know, the family home is possibly the most significant form of voluntary savings that retirees have historically had, because retirees have historically had a very high level of home ownership compared to other countries, in Australia. However, the family home is not actually considered a part of a person’s retirement income.”

Dr Joshua Funder, Chief Executive Officer of Household Capital said, “Home isn’t just a source of funding, it’s not just a house. It’s your identity, it’s your family, it’s your community, it’s housing, and it’s a source of funding.” Advocating for the need for change, Funder said, “Older Australians are some of the wealthiest in the world, they live longer than ever and yet they are worried.”

Key topics

The key topics discussed by the lively panel included the three pillars, aged care, women in old aged poverty, education and engagement.

The three pillars

The live panel provided a unique opportunity to cohesively focus on all the three pillars of retirement funding: the age care pension, superannuation and home equity.

The funding amount is significant. “There’s a trillion dollars in home equity owned by Australian retirees – using this responsibly for long-term funding can improve retirement,” said Funder.

Senator Jane Hume said, “Ultimately what we need to be thinking about is the interaction of all three pillars of the system: the aged pension, superannuation and the third pillar, and how they work together to deliver for Australians in retirement.”

Deanne Stewart, CEO, Aware Super said, “Threading the needle between pillars one, two and three needs good quality and affordable advice. This results in confidence and good mental health in retirement.”

Aged care

Aged care is a major concern of every Australian, with the Royal Commission and COVID bringing it sharply into focus and later aged care being of particular importance.

Jean Kitson, author of Let’s Talk About Mum and Dad said, “I found there was a lot of fear about aging and aged care and especially the capacity to pay for your care. I think that fear, it also comes out of that narrative, that older Australians are a burden. That has been a terrible narrative and it sets up a conflict between older Australians and people who are making financial policy and economists. That puts everyone in a defensive mode.

“My parents are pensioners and they manage, they don’t imagine. They have lives, not lifestyles.”

Andrew Boal, CEO, Rice Warner pointed to the escalating costs in later life. “We’re living longer but only about half of that is healthy. After age 82, nearly 50 percent have health issues,” he said. “The cost of health care after age 85 is about five times higher than the cost of healthcare for a 35 year old. And then you’ve got aged care. Am I going to need it? To what extent? I don’t know. So I’m going to have to reserve a whole lot of capital just for those things just in case.”

Women in old aged poverty

The levels of poverty of women in retirement were of concern to all members of the panel.

Deanne Stewart, CEO of Aware Super  said, “Two thirds of our members are female. We see a real disparity between males and females. Females are retiring on 57 percent of their male counterparts. One in three women get to retirement without superannuation.”

Kitson empathised, “It’s women on their own, mostly women on their own, on one pension and renting. They’re the ones in a lot of strife and who really struggle.”

Stewart explained the reasons behind the lower fund balances. “About one third of it is the career breaks. Taking time out, maternity leave, looking after elderly parents. About two thirds of it is due to wage differences. Women tend to work more part time, and that gender pay gap. Underneath that data is not just about women, but those with very low income. And those that are more casualized or part-time, or in the gig economy.”

Funder spoke to the broader issue of supporting all older Australians, including women, to have a dignified old age. “Many Australians, particularly single retired Australians, particularly single female retired Australians have only one pillar and it’s the pension and where those Australians are in the private rental market, they’re amongst the poorest and most vulnerable of Australians. So, that’s not a question about three pillars, that’s a question about helping those people live with dignity throughout their lives. We all need to come together and agree on a whole range of help that’s needed to make sure those aged Australians aren’t vulnerable, poor and can live with dignity.”

Education and engagement

The panel all spoke to the importance of education and engagement to increase knowledge and confidence. This becomes increasingly challenging as customers age.

“What we really want is people to be more engaged in their superannuation and more engaged, including their superannuation as part of their personal balance sheet,” said Senator Hume.

Amara Haqqani, Director, Milliman asked, “What processes and policies can we put in place to encourage engagement between people and their retirement funding? We need to be better at providing education to retirees.”

Haqqani spoke to the need to be education rather than product focussed. “We talk about guidance, financial guidance, financial counseling. It all comes back to getting the basics right to get people confident. Once you’ve got them understanding their own retirement needs, then you can start looking at products.”

Financial technology may play an important role in making mass information accessible. “We can use technology to help ‘middle Australia’ navigate an appropriate retirement strategy,” said Boal.

Harris spoke strongly for the need for independent expert advice. “We need a form of navigator here, and it has to be a trusted navigator. It’s a person who provides better information in your particular circumstances. We don’t really develop such people for the purposes of aging.”

The benefits will be seen across society. “We need to get retirees confident in their finances and their lifestyle. That will encourage consumption which is good for everyone” said Funder.

Online in 2020

The inaugural Third Pillar Forum was hosted in Melbourne in October 2019.

Dr Joshua Funder, Chief Executive Officer of Household Capital, said, “We were strongly committed to ensuring that the 2020 Third Pillar Forum went ahead. Now more than ever it is essential that the government and the industry seeks solutions that allow older Australians to live safely and securely in their old age.”

As a fintech Household Capital, had been delivering 100 percent digital customer service to older Australians since before lockdown so while the move online was new, it was a natural development.

Funder continues, “We have continued to grow throughout the pandemic, providing support, information and funding for our customers through an online customer experience and through video and telephone support. Delivering the forum online fits with our commitment to provide great content, drive the conversation and build a movement to deliver all three pillars of retirement wealth to older Australians. This year’s format enabled us to invite all our customers as well as industry experts who could join live and ask questions of the panel. Household Capital looks forward to hosting industry events in a more normal future, but following the successful response to this year’s online broadcast element, will continue to ensure widespread access to our content and national conversation.”

The 2020 event was attended by Household Capital customers, industry leaders and media. As well as the live panel, the Third Pillar Forum includes interviews and content from experts and advocates from Australia and around the world.

Join the conversation

Household Capital is committed to keeping this topic alive throughout the year. Join the conversation on Twitter #thirdpillarforum. Watch the live panel discussion as well as to view 27 videos from world leading experts.

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